lazybones
If so, could you please state how you/they are discriminated against.
Eg; refused a pint in a bar
Answer
We are denied federal recognition of our marriages and civil unions....which are "separate but equal"...that was ruled discrimination when it applied to African Americans and women. People are attacked, beaten, raped and killed, right here in the USA just because they are homosexual. When my partner and I went to rent an apartment between selling and buying a new home, we were told they would only rent a two bedroom apartment to us, even though we had put most of our furniture in storage and only needed a one bedroom. Heterosexual couples did not have that restriction.
A senior gay couple we know were denied the right to buy a condo in a senior complex because the complex said they weren't "related by blood or married," even though they were married in Canada. An elderly gay couple we know were refused an apartment in assisted living, they were told only one of them could live there, and they even refused to allow the couple to rent two different apartments and live in only one, even though heterosexual couples live in the apartments together. Most of us cannot carry our partners on our insurance. Our partners cannot make medical decisions for each other without a medical power of attorney. Our partners cannot inherit everything they have earned together without a will....family members of the deceased frequently "raid and take" everything that was intended for our partners. Our partners cannot collect our pensions when we have died...like heterosexual partners do. Our partners cannot even bury each other without special paperwork allowing them to make those decisions. We cannot file joint taxes nor establish joint credit. The children we adopt are not equally protected to those adopted or parented by heterosexuals.
Many states will not allow a homosexual individual or couple to adopt a child...yet they will allow us to "foster care" a child, and single heterosexuals may adopt. Single homosexuals are passed over for promotions, not because they are "obviously homosexual, but because it "isn't in the corporation's best "image or interests" to have a homosexual in a position that might draw boycotts from special interest groups. Homosexuals have been denied security clearances just because they were honest about their sexual orientation. Some companies still blatantly refuse to hire, and sometimes even fire, personnel that they suspect as being homosexual. Some are brazen about it, some do the same way they do to avoid hiring people of color.
A lady friend of mine who is...I guess you would say "homely and not really pretty".... was told she was not welcome at a unisex gym because one of the patrons "suspected" her of being lesbian...she isn't, but they wouldn't take her word for it, they revoked her membership. Homosexual kids, are bullied and abused by both children and adults, including some teachers. Often driven to the point of suicide.
A busy gay nightclub in Atlanta was "raided" just over a year ago on a weekend night. The authorities kept changing their story as to why they raided the club. They claimed the club had no liquor license, claimed it had unlicensed male dancers, claimed there was sex going on in the club, and claimed illegal drugs were present in the club, they claimed there were underage people in the club. The cops made everyone lie face down. Searched everyone. Took everyone's ID. The club has a valid liquor license, no drugs were found on anyone, no underage people were there, all of the dancers were licensed and clothed where they were supposed to be, and no one was having any form of sex or in any state of undress to suggest that was going on. When the club went to take the city to court, all of the "evidence" including the call "tip" and the prior "investigation" before it was actually raided....all of the evidence....was erased and had disappeared, including the "back ups." When was the last time you heard of a straight club being put through all of that? Homosexual clubs in smaller cities still have to pay under the counter to stay open. When a gay person calls the police because a crime has been committed against him/her it is often not followed up. When our homes, cars and businesses are vandalized, the guilty party is generally not arrested, even when someone has witnessed the crime.
I could go on for a very long list. There is so much more. This is why we march. This is why we fight in the courts...even though, when we win, the rules suddenly get changed. Regardless of your personal beliefs...always remember...When you actively or passively deny others the same rights that you expect for yourself, you are harming yourself. At some point you or your children will be denied a right or privilege you are entitled to. Because those who discriminate and dissect civil rights, do not stop with one person or group. They continue to erode the rights of others until they are the only ones left with any.
We are denied federal recognition of our marriages and civil unions....which are "separate but equal"...that was ruled discrimination when it applied to African Americans and women. People are attacked, beaten, raped and killed, right here in the USA just because they are homosexual. When my partner and I went to rent an apartment between selling and buying a new home, we were told they would only rent a two bedroom apartment to us, even though we had put most of our furniture in storage and only needed a one bedroom. Heterosexual couples did not have that restriction.
A senior gay couple we know were denied the right to buy a condo in a senior complex because the complex said they weren't "related by blood or married," even though they were married in Canada. An elderly gay couple we know were refused an apartment in assisted living, they were told only one of them could live there, and they even refused to allow the couple to rent two different apartments and live in only one, even though heterosexual couples live in the apartments together. Most of us cannot carry our partners on our insurance. Our partners cannot make medical decisions for each other without a medical power of attorney. Our partners cannot inherit everything they have earned together without a will....family members of the deceased frequently "raid and take" everything that was intended for our partners. Our partners cannot collect our pensions when we have died...like heterosexual partners do. Our partners cannot even bury each other without special paperwork allowing them to make those decisions. We cannot file joint taxes nor establish joint credit. The children we adopt are not equally protected to those adopted or parented by heterosexuals.
Many states will not allow a homosexual individual or couple to adopt a child...yet they will allow us to "foster care" a child, and single heterosexuals may adopt. Single homosexuals are passed over for promotions, not because they are "obviously homosexual, but because it "isn't in the corporation's best "image or interests" to have a homosexual in a position that might draw boycotts from special interest groups. Homosexuals have been denied security clearances just because they were honest about their sexual orientation. Some companies still blatantly refuse to hire, and sometimes even fire, personnel that they suspect as being homosexual. Some are brazen about it, some do the same way they do to avoid hiring people of color.
A lady friend of mine who is...I guess you would say "homely and not really pretty".... was told she was not welcome at a unisex gym because one of the patrons "suspected" her of being lesbian...she isn't, but they wouldn't take her word for it, they revoked her membership. Homosexual kids, are bullied and abused by both children and adults, including some teachers. Often driven to the point of suicide.
A busy gay nightclub in Atlanta was "raided" just over a year ago on a weekend night. The authorities kept changing their story as to why they raided the club. They claimed the club had no liquor license, claimed it had unlicensed male dancers, claimed there was sex going on in the club, and claimed illegal drugs were present in the club, they claimed there were underage people in the club. The cops made everyone lie face down. Searched everyone. Took everyone's ID. The club has a valid liquor license, no drugs were found on anyone, no underage people were there, all of the dancers were licensed and clothed where they were supposed to be, and no one was having any form of sex or in any state of undress to suggest that was going on. When the club went to take the city to court, all of the "evidence" including the call "tip" and the prior "investigation" before it was actually raided....all of the evidence....was erased and had disappeared, including the "back ups." When was the last time you heard of a straight club being put through all of that? Homosexual clubs in smaller cities still have to pay under the counter to stay open. When a gay person calls the police because a crime has been committed against him/her it is often not followed up. When our homes, cars and businesses are vandalized, the guilty party is generally not arrested, even when someone has witnessed the crime.
I could go on for a very long list. There is so much more. This is why we march. This is why we fight in the courts...even though, when we win, the rules suddenly get changed. Regardless of your personal beliefs...always remember...When you actively or passively deny others the same rights that you expect for yourself, you are harming yourself. At some point you or your children will be denied a right or privilege you are entitled to. Because those who discriminate and dissect civil rights, do not stop with one person or group. They continue to erode the rights of others until they are the only ones left with any.
Any Military wives in Fort Shafter, Hawaii?
natalie_ri
Im stationed at Ansbach, Germany. But my husband is going to re enlist soon. So i have picked out Fort Shafter, Fort Carson Colorado and Fort Riley Kansas. I wanted more information on Fort Shafter. I been to hawaii a few times but i wanted more info on the base and what it has. Like On post Housing. how do they look. does each kid gets its own room. i have 2 daughters. and in germany u get a room for each person. Also we get free furnishings. its expensive in europe so we get some free stuff. i know in the usa is diff. we never been stationed any where else. anyway all the help would be good and u can pm me if u wanna tell me more thanks.
forgot one thing. we are Army. Not Marines. so i think it would be diff if i got info for Marine stuff. thanks
Answer
i was stationed at fort shafter with my dad, but that was years ago. we were put up in a temporary apartment in pearl city until housing became available. i think we were there for at least a month. when my dad signed for housing, we were loaned furniture until our stuff came. we had a 3 bedroom house since it was just my brother and i plus the parents. you can probably go to the army housing site to see what the housing looks like and see what they offer. i go back to visit hawaii often and are houses were tore down. not sure what they put in their place. hawaii is a beautiful place to live, but expensive so be prepared. gas is extremely high and so is rent if living off post. stay at the commissary to save money because food is very high as well since they import most of their food.
South Regional Office [MAP]
Serving Fort Shafter, Tripler Army Medical Center, Red Hill, and Aliamanu Military Reservation
Montgomery Drive, Building 344
Fort Shafter, HI 96858
Telephone: 808-275-3800
Facsimile: 808-842-7506
SouthRegional@armyhawaiifh.com
there is some contact information about housing at fort shafter. i would do a search for army housing online. you can usually get a welcome packet. good luck.
i was stationed at fort shafter with my dad, but that was years ago. we were put up in a temporary apartment in pearl city until housing became available. i think we were there for at least a month. when my dad signed for housing, we were loaned furniture until our stuff came. we had a 3 bedroom house since it was just my brother and i plus the parents. you can probably go to the army housing site to see what the housing looks like and see what they offer. i go back to visit hawaii often and are houses were tore down. not sure what they put in their place. hawaii is a beautiful place to live, but expensive so be prepared. gas is extremely high and so is rent if living off post. stay at the commissary to save money because food is very high as well since they import most of their food.
South Regional Office [MAP]
Serving Fort Shafter, Tripler Army Medical Center, Red Hill, and Aliamanu Military Reservation
Montgomery Drive, Building 344
Fort Shafter, HI 96858
Telephone: 808-275-3800
Facsimile: 808-842-7506
SouthRegional@armyhawaiifh.com
there is some contact information about housing at fort shafter. i would do a search for army housing online. you can usually get a welcome packet. good luck.
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